Bruce Eckel's Thinking in C++ is a free download, and highly regarded by many people.

ok thanks.. between C, C++ and Assembly. which order do i need to follow in if i want to learn all 3?? What is a good book on C and Assembly??

Don't bother until you're a much more experienced programmer. C++ is the highest level of the three, and the one least likely to leave you horribly frustrated, in my experience, if you learn C++, and not some weird, *******ized mix of C and C++. Eckel's book looks pretty good in that regard.

alright thanks i downloaded both volumes 1 & 2. Does that sound right?? also if i need help will someone like u or someone else will help me??

imo learn c first then u may learn assembly. if u decide to learn c++ i suggest u start of with something easier like Ruby/python etc. not that c++ is any harder than c or assembly,, just a little complex

imo learn c first then u may learn assembly. if u decide to learn c++ i suggest u start of with something easier like Ruby/python etc. not that c++ is any harder than c or assembly,, just a little complex

C is simpler than C++, but it lacks a truly straightforward way of dealing with strings, and strings are just too fundamental to new programmers (and experienced ones). For me, that's a deal-breaker when it comes to C as a starting language.

But yes, Ruby or Python are also good options, particularly because of how easy they make it to experiement with their interactive interpreters.

My advice is this, and I've told it to a lot of other people.

Take it one language at a time. Start out with the least frustrating one, and the one which lets you concentrate on being a good programmer. You'll get better all the time, and each subsequent language you tackle will be easier.

Of the three listed, C++ is the least frustrating.

dsantamassino - no idea.. i didn't take that route. i learnt BASIC first. but it was useless i didnt understand a thing back then (pfft gr 4).. then i tried AppleScript.. an now this was some years later but i got the hang of simple scripting.. then later one i tried ColdFusion (web development) things started getting intersting.. then all of a sudden i erratically accelerated my leraning pace and learnt unix shell scripting (tcsh and bash), VB (well not really, i just skimmed through it), and Java, C++ and Perl... and later on obj-c (well a little) but i lost interest of learning more languages by then.

somewhere along the time after i picked up java, i learnt Turing.


(in total i had learnt quite a few languages.. but i can't remember them all.. i can't even remember some of their names.. i'm now only specialised in Java, Perl and C++, with a bit on obj-c..)

If you know nothing yet, I suggest starting with a language other than C++. It's the least frustrating of the three you mentioned, but still synactically, and semantically incredibly complex.

Things you should understand:

• Includes
  
• Basic input and output
  
• Variables
  
• Constants
  
• Conditionals
  
• Loops
  
• Functions
  
• Arrays

ok u have to work with me man.. what is the best easy language to learn then C++?? I know not a thing in anything.

Go with Ruby or Python. Both are easy to install, and easy to learn. Plus they'll help you learn all of these concepts by reducing the syntactic overhead.

For the depth to which you'd be getting into either language, I know them equally well.

I can do fancier stuff in Ruby, though.

The Windows installer is here.

Tutorials:

http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/
http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/
http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ruby-doc-bundle/Tutorial/
http://poignantguide.net/ruby/

No problem. Feel free to ask Ruby questions in the General Programming forum.

The Windows installer is here.

Tutorials:

http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/
http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/
http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ruby-doc-bundle/Tutorial/
http://poignantguide.net/ruby/

Im reading the first tutorial. Do i need to read all of those tutorials or just read anyone i want too??

Any of them, all of them, it's up to you. Certainly won't hurt to read more than one of them. Warning, though, the last one is great, but very abstract and weird.

Im taking a break from reading the tutorial.

wtd, wow who gave u donate 2?? was me for u helping me?? I think it was. good job. If u get me through everything i need to know promise u will get more.

I don't need any more bits.

Have some for your effort, though.

Take it one step at a time.

How are you and Ruby getting along?

Good. How far have you gotten?

Yes.

You can also use the Ruby interactive interpreter.

Start -> Run, type "cmd", then at the command prompt, type "irb".

You'll see something like:

code:

irb(main):001:0>

Now, let's say you want to do simple output...

code:

irb(main):001:0> puts 3 3 => nil irb(main):001:0>

At this point you're ready for another line of code.

Might be quicker than dealing with saving files and running them.

You can use any plain text editor. Notepad will suffice, though I prefer Textpad, with the Ruby syntax highlighting extension.

Just make sure the file ends in a ".rb" extension, and not ".txt".

Do not use Word or Wordpad, or any other word processor, for that matter. They may add extra stuff you can't see for formatting. This extra "stuff" will break the program.

But yes, you can run the same code from a file, or "irb". The difference is that irb will show you much more information.

Certainly. I was just replying where you asked the questions.

Canada, Pacific timezone.

Can Canada also go in Eastern Time?? Some people online say Canada is Eastern also.

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