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	<title>Comments on: The spirit of Software Engineering</title>
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	<description>Programming, Education, Computer Science</description>
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		<title>By: Choosing between Computer Science and Computer Engineering &#124; CompSci.ca/blog</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-114103</link>
		<dc:creator>Choosing between Computer Science and Computer Engineering &#124; CompSci.ca/blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally, I was thinking of comparing Computer Science to Software Engineering, but there was too much overlap to make a good example. Though this previous article could be of interest &#8212; The spirit of Software Engineering. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally, I was thinking of comparing Computer Science to Software Engineering, but there was too much overlap to make a good example. Though this previous article could be of interest &#8212; The spirit of Software Engineering. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-113963</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer Science and Software Engineering are &lt;a href=&quot;http://compsci.ca/blog/6-degrees-of-computer-science/&quot; title=&quot;Computer Science vs. Software Engineering&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fairly similar&lt;/a&gt;. You should check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://compsci.ca/v3/viewforum.php?f=134&quot; title=&quot;Computer Science / Engineering at Canadian Universities, and such, Forums&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the forums&lt;/a&gt;, I think you&#039;ll find a lot of useful information there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer Science and Software Engineering are <a href="http://compsci.ca/blog/6-degrees-of-computer-science/" title="Computer Science vs. Software Engineering" rel="nofollow">fairly similar</a>. You should check out <a href="http://compsci.ca/v3/viewforum.php?f=134" title="Computer Science / Engineering at Canadian Universities, and such, Forums" rel="nofollow">the forums</a>, I think you&#8217;ll find a lot of useful information there.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-113951</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I am in grade 12 and I am looking to go to university for Computer Science, but I have recently thought about Software Engineering. I want to be a video game programmer, and I was wondering which program you guys thought would be better suited to an aspiring programmer?

Thanks for the help.

David

p.s. I have been looking at universities and I am not sure which one I like. I know I should look at the &quot;whole package&quot;, but I was wondering what you thought about the programs at each. Also, why did you choose Waterloo Tony?
Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I am in grade 12 and I am looking to go to university for Computer Science, but I have recently thought about Software Engineering. I want to be a video game programmer, and I was wondering which program you guys thought would be better suited to an aspiring programmer?</p>
<p>Thanks for the help.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>p.s. I have been looking at universities and I am not sure which one I like. I know I should look at the &#8220;whole package&#8221;, but I was wondering what you thought about the programs at each. Also, why did you choose Waterloo Tony?<br />
Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitin Reddy Katkam</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-112507</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin Reddy Katkam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer science is a pretty large field that deals with building systems that are tolerant of failure and coming up with more efficient algorithms.

Software engineering is more about making software development economically viable.

You should pick the major for what you intend to do after graduating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer science is a pretty large field that deals with building systems that are tolerant of failure and coming up with more efficient algorithms.</p>
<p>Software engineering is more about making software development economically viable.</p>
<p>You should pick the major for what you intend to do after graduating.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110972</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hacker Research Lab&quot; at UOIT; nice.

Thx for the links. I should get back to writing summaries of CS programs at Canadian Universities, and this is definitely something worth mentioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hacker Research Lab&#8221; at UOIT; nice.</p>
<p>Thx for the links. I should get back to writing summaries of CS programs at Canadian Universities, and this is definitely something worth mentioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Avery</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110971</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like entirely different degrees, not officially computer science. I&#039;m not in computer science, I just happened to stumble across this blog, but I&#039;m in my second year of Information Technology - Networking &amp; Security at UOIT. You get a Bachelor of Information Technology in the end. Here&#039;s the site (it shows networking and security separately right now but they plan to merge the streams for next year): http://businessandit.uoit.ca/EN/main/96618/140839.html

UOIT&#039;s computer science also allows you to specialize in Digital Media or Digital Forensics: http://www.science.uoit.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=44&amp;Itemid=60

And here is Carleton&#039;s IT offering: http://www2.carleton.ca/admissions/programs/bachelor-of-information-technology/

And York&#039;s though it didn&#039;t look too in depth to me: http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/programs/template.asp?id=452

These are just programs I was looking at when I was trying to choose where to go, but I&#039;m sure there are more, more specialized computer/tech related degrees seem to be popping up all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like entirely different degrees, not officially computer science. I&#8217;m not in computer science, I just happened to stumble across this blog, but I&#8217;m in my second year of Information Technology &#8211; Networking &amp; Security at UOIT. You get a Bachelor of Information Technology in the end. Here&#8217;s the site (it shows networking and security separately right now but they plan to merge the streams for next year): <a href="http://businessandit.uoit.ca/EN/main/96618/140839.html" rel="nofollow">http://businessandit.uoit.ca/EN/main/96618/140839.html</a></p>
<p>UOIT&#8217;s computer science also allows you to specialize in Digital Media or Digital Forensics: <a href="http://www.science.uoit.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=44&amp;Itemid=60" rel="nofollow">http://www.science.uoit.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=44&amp;Itemid=60</a></p>
<p>And here is Carleton&#8217;s IT offering: <a href="http://www2.carleton.ca/admissions/programs/bachelor-of-information-technology/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.carleton.ca/admissions/programs/bachelor-of-information-technology/</a></p>
<p>And York&#8217;s though it didn&#8217;t look too in depth to me: <a href="http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/programs/template.asp?id=452" rel="nofollow">http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/programs/template.asp?id=452</a></p>
<p>These are just programs I was looking at when I was trying to choose where to go, but I&#8217;m sure there are more, more specialized computer/tech related degrees seem to be popping up all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110970</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say &quot;programs&quot;, do you mean something along the lines of an &lt;em&gt;option&lt;/em&gt;, or just a class? I know that Waterloo has a really interesting course in Security; though it would be intriguing to see such material go more in-depth than a single course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say &#8220;programs&#8221;, do you mean something along the lines of an <em>option</em>, or just a class? I know that Waterloo has a really interesting course in Security; though it would be intriguing to see such material go more in-depth than a single course.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Avery</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110964</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get those specializations through similar undergrad programs. I haven&#039;t done much research into it but off-hand I know UOIT and Carleton both have Networking and Security programs, and there are specializations in computer science degrees such as digital media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get those specializations through similar undergrad programs. I haven&#8217;t done much research into it but off-hand I know UOIT and Carleton both have Networking and Security programs, and there are specializations in computer science degrees such as digital media.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110881</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer Science &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; separated; at the graduate level. It&#039;s unreasonable to expect kids to know that they might be interested in something like compilers, while still in high school (which might not even offer CS classes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer Science <em>is</em> separated; at the graduate level. It&#8217;s unreasonable to expect kids to know that they might be interested in something like compilers, while still in high school (which might not even offer CS classes).</p>
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		<title>By: Burcu Dogan</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/the-spirit-of-software-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-110876</link>
		<dc:creator>Burcu Dogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But in the end of the day, software engineering and computer science have too less in common. CS programs became to large to be offered as a program I think. The whole program is like an introduction to the concept of the main fields in computer science. How could you learn about computer networks in a term? It&#039;s too limited. CS lacks in focus.
It&#039;d be a lot better to see CS separated into fields like information sciences, computer networks, theory, software engineering, computer graphics, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But in the end of the day, software engineering and computer science have too less in common. CS programs became to large to be offered as a program I think. The whole program is like an introduction to the concept of the main fields in computer science. How could you learn about computer networks in a term? It&#8217;s too limited. CS lacks in focus.<br />
It&#8217;d be a lot better to see CS separated into fields like information sciences, computer networks, theory, software engineering, computer graphics, etc.</p>
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