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	<title>Comments on: Looking back at working with PHP</title>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone wanting to get practical experience with PHP and Oracle, try the free version of the Oracle Database from http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html
It installs/deinstalls extremely easily.  PHP can also be installed quickly on top, either using the free Zend Core for Oracle stack (http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/php/zendcore/index.html) or from the standard PHP distributions.

-- cj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone wanting to get practical experience with PHP and Oracle, try the free version of the Oracle Database from <a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html</a><br />
It installs/deinstalls extremely easily.  PHP can also be installed quickly on top, either using the free Zend Core for Oracle stack (<a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/php/zendcore/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/php/zendcore/index.html</a>) or from the standard PHP distributions.</p>
<p>&#8211; cj</p>
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		<title>By: wtd</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>wtd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t learn to use many different tools so you can choose one and declare it the best.  You learn to use many different tools so you don&#039;t have to choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t learn to use many different tools so you can choose one and declare it the best.  You learn to use many different tools so you don&#8217;t have to choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Craige</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Craige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yes. I am not just sticking with PHP. I am learning C++, and Java now, and I plan to learn Ruby and Perl within a couple years. I&#039;m just saying I don&#039;t think I&#039;d ever leave PHP. Maybe I&#039;m wrong though, maybe I will sometime stop using it as my main language. Nobody can say for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yes. I am not just sticking with PHP. I am learning C++, and Java now, and I plan to learn Ruby and Perl within a couple years. I&#8217;m just saying I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d ever leave PHP. Maybe I&#8217;m wrong though, maybe I will sometime stop using it as my main language. Nobody can say for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-459</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craige - you should still try out different languages, just to see how they are different. If you settle for your &lt;i&gt;&quot;first programming language&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, then you are doing just that - &lt;i&gt;&quot;settling&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, not choosing your best.

Similarly I choose Mac OS X as my favourite OS because I have also used Windows, various distros of Linux, and Solaris. If you settle for Windows because &lt;i&gt;&quot;it does everything I know of (yes, because that&#039;s the only system you&#039;ve used) and others use it..&quot;&lt;/i&gt; - you simply give up control of making your own choice.

It is through differences that you really understand the systems involved, and that is why in my above post I urge to diversify and to try something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craige &#8211; you should still try out different languages, just to see how they are different. If you settle for your <i>&#8220;first programming language&#8221;</i>, then you are doing just that &#8211; <i>&#8220;settling&#8221;</i>, not choosing your best.</p>
<p>Similarly I choose Mac OS X as my favourite OS because I have also used Windows, various distros of Linux, and Solaris. If you settle for Windows because <i>&#8220;it does everything I know of (yes, because that&#8217;s the only system you&#8217;ve used) and others use it..&#8221;</i> &#8211; you simply give up control of making your own choice.</p>
<p>It is through differences that you really understand the systems involved, and that is why in my above post I urge to diversify and to try something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Craige</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Craige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I like PHP. It is the first programming language I ever touched, and I do not think I will ever part with it. I understand it has its pitfalls, but there is something about it that has me hooked.

I am hoping, as are many people, that PHP 6 will bring a number of new features into the world of PHP that only a year ago seemed like pure fantasy. I am particularly hoping for further expansion of the object oriented side of the language. It has come along way since PHP4, but it still has a way to go yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I like PHP. It is the first programming language I ever touched, and I do not think I will ever part with it. I understand it has its pitfalls, but there is something about it that has me hooked.</p>
<p>I am hoping, as are many people, that PHP 6 will bring a number of new features into the world of PHP that only a year ago seemed like pure fantasy. I am particularly hoping for further expansion of the object oriented side of the language. It has come along way since PHP4, but it still has a way to go yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, that is exactly what I have done - applied to jobs if I thought I could do them. Some are skeptical, others are more realistic - depends who interviews you (HR, Manager, Developer, etc). So far I have not perfectly matched for any co-op job requirement, but I demonstrated that I could easily pick up on any missing skill.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, that is exactly what I have done &#8211; applied to jobs if I thought I could do them. Some are skeptical, others are more realistic &#8211; depends who interviews you (HR, Manager, Developer, etc). So far I have not perfectly matched for any co-op job requirement, but I demonstrated that I could easily pick up on any missing skill.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ingram</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/looking-back-at-working-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studying Comp Sci at uni, I had to primarily learn Java, but we were given random projects in other languages too (learning the language wasn&#039;t part of the assessment, we just had to if we wanted to get any marks).  So we picked up C, ML, Prolog and Matlab remarkably quickly.  I&#039;m convinced that it only takes a couple of hours to get a working knowledge of a language, maybe a few weeks to get to grips with any API you might have to use regularly.  Mastering all the quirks of a language can take. years though.

Now i&#039;m having to apply for jobs that require PHP experience and i&#039;m thinking of just trying to justify that I can learn a language quickly enough should I get to interview</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studying Comp Sci at uni, I had to primarily learn Java, but we were given random projects in other languages too (learning the language wasn&#8217;t part of the assessment, we just had to if we wanted to get any marks).  So we picked up C, ML, Prolog and Matlab remarkably quickly.  I&#8217;m convinced that it only takes a couple of hours to get a working knowledge of a language, maybe a few weeks to get to grips with any API you might have to use regularly.  Mastering all the quirks of a language can take. years though.</p>
<p>Now i&#8217;m having to apply for jobs that require PHP experience and i&#8217;m thinking of just trying to justify that I can learn a language quickly enough should I get to interview</p>
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