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	<title>Comments on: Blocking students on school network is wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-113815</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way, this is comparable to how access to the outside world might be given to just your manager, as the rest of the company staff is there &quot;to do a job&quot;.

And, comes to think of it, even a lot of grownups don&#039;t really... grow up, and require just this kind of herding by their overlords.

Though the original point is that the underlying social problems are not addressed, and are only masked by the use of questionable technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way, this is comparable to how access to the outside world might be given to just your manager, as the rest of the company staff is there &#8220;to do a job&#8221;.</p>
<p>And, comes to think of it, even a lot of grownups don&#8217;t really&#8230; grow up, and require just this kind of herding by their overlords.</p>
<p>Though the original point is that the underlying social problems are not addressed, and are only masked by the use of questionable technology.</p>
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		<title>By: J Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-113675</link>
		<dc:creator>J Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m older than I think. Blackberry or any other data transfer device in school? If you pulled that in my day you&#039;d have a serious problem on your hands. Why would any student be allowed to have a device of this nature on their person when entering a place of learning. You&#039;re there to do a job, just like any other job, so focus and do your job, period. As for access to the outside world on a school computer, should this not be restricted to staff. If a student needs something off of the internet, it can be downloaded to a network drive by someone authorized to do so. Essentially creating a repository of information that may be required by the student to do classwork, assignments etc. If the student is required to do something like research, live on the fly, then there can be a number of computers set up for that purpose alone, that can be monitored in real time. Maybe I&#039;m missing something here (and I probably am), but this seems like a moot point. YouTube, or any other questionable content? Suspension or expulsion. I know I&#039;m probably being a little over the top here. Maybe one of the current students can point out where my thinking is going wrong. I&#039;m a pretty open minded guy, and I will listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m older than I think. Blackberry or any other data transfer device in school? If you pulled that in my day you&#8217;d have a serious problem on your hands. Why would any student be allowed to have a device of this nature on their person when entering a place of learning. You&#8217;re there to do a job, just like any other job, so focus and do your job, period. As for access to the outside world on a school computer, should this not be restricted to staff. If a student needs something off of the internet, it can be downloaded to a network drive by someone authorized to do so. Essentially creating a repository of information that may be required by the student to do classwork, assignments etc. If the student is required to do something like research, live on the fly, then there can be a number of computers set up for that purpose alone, that can be monitored in real time. Maybe I&#8217;m missing something here (and I probably am), but this seems like a moot point. YouTube, or any other questionable content? Suspension or expulsion. I know I&#8217;m probably being a little over the top here. Maybe one of the current students can point out where my thinking is going wrong. I&#8217;m a pretty open minded guy, and I will listen.</p>
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		<title>By: megaphase.info</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-111395</link>
		<dc:creator>megaphase.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes sites like youtube contain educational content or content relevant to your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes sites like youtube contain educational content or content relevant to your work.</p>
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		<title>By: bitmindframes</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-111341</link>
		<dc:creator>bitmindframes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a simple thought, why do students (in class) need to access sites like youtube? These sites are blocked for a reason and the system admin will plug any hole you may find. Further more by trying to bypass the restrictions the system administrator may just lock the network down even tighter. It boils down to common sense if you want to spend your day on youtube or facebook instead of working then quit,otherwise curb your urges to view that stupid monkey eating a bannana your friend has sent you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a simple thought, why do students (in class) need to access sites like youtube? These sites are blocked for a reason and the system admin will plug any hole you may find. Further more by trying to bypass the restrictions the system administrator may just lock the network down even tighter. It boils down to common sense if you want to spend your day on youtube or facebook instead of working then quit,otherwise curb your urges to view that stupid monkey eating a bannana your friend has sent you.</p>
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		<title>By: Megaphase.info</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-111192</link>
		<dc:creator>Megaphase.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find a way to circumvent the filters. only the intelligent ones that can figure it out deserve to view the restricted content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find a way to circumvent the filters. only the intelligent ones that can figure it out deserve to view the restricted content</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Marentette</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-110922</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Marentette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my public school district, some of the schools require the students to wear uniforms. Electronic devices are not permitted in many schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my public school district, some of the schools require the students to wear uniforms. Electronic devices are not permitted in many schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Marentette</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-110921</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Marentette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TeacherTube is also blocked from my school!</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-110777</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though there are students in schools who possess the knowledge of bypassing the filtering software, most will not know how. If there were no software at all installed on school computers (below university leve) adult content and other content &quot;comical&quot; to these students will be spread on school grounds at a much higher rate which will hold the school liable for far more hurt than they can afford to have. The argument of it being a &quot;social&quot; issue vs a &quot;software issue&quot; is that no group of people can be controlled like that, peers will always do what is necessary to impress each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though there are students in schools who possess the knowledge of bypassing the filtering software, most will not know how. If there were no software at all installed on school computers (below university leve) adult content and other content &#8220;comical&#8221; to these students will be spread on school grounds at a much higher rate which will hold the school liable for far more hurt than they can afford to have. The argument of it being a &#8220;social&#8221; issue vs a &#8220;software issue&#8221; is that no group of people can be controlled like that, peers will always do what is necessary to impress each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-110439</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha talking about right click button being disabled, our office sys admin put instant glue on the mouse so it wouldnt work anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha talking about right click button being disabled, our office sys admin put instant glue on the mouse so it wouldnt work anymore</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brian</title>
		<link>http://compsci.ca/blog/blocking-students-on-school-network-is-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-110367</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you and the commenter&#039;s. Kids are enterprising and would find a way to circumvent the blocks. 

The problem is with modern parenting and attitudes towards children in general. Nobody takes the time to listen or interact, it&#039;s all down to stereotypes and ignorance.

Respect the children and they will follow suit (most of the time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you and the commenter&#8217;s. Kids are enterprising and would find a way to circumvent the blocks. </p>
<p>The problem is with modern parenting and attitudes towards children in general. Nobody takes the time to listen or interact, it&#8217;s all down to stereotypes and ignorance.</p>
<p>Respect the children and they will follow suit (most of the time).</p>
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